No ladder needed. We were putting things into storage on Tuesday and I climbed up into the space because Ryan could easily hand the boxes up to me. He did use the ladder to help boost himself with some of the heavier items but his long arms and height definitely made the lifting easier.
Note: We are storing the things that eventually will be shipped to Australia. We’ve gotten rid of all big items and will be traveling around the US for the next few months with only what fits in our car.